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More oil questions
Honestly? I don't care for it! It leaves a bitter aftertaste. Not very satisfying. It goes flat right after you pour it and there always seems to be a slight sediment in the bottom of the glass....
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I'm considering changing to Amsoil (next change). Best I can determine mines been on Honda oil for about 12-13K. I have no oil consumption at this time. any risk associated with this change?
BTW: a friend is becoming an Amsoil dealer, and he is the pickiest car nut on the planet.
I'm considering changing to Amsoil (next change). Best I can determine mines been on Honda oil for about 12-13K. I have no oil consumption at this time. any risk associated with this change?
BTW: a friend is becoming an Amsoil dealer, and he is the pickiest car nut on the planet.
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Engine oils
Any body have any new preference for engine oil on the CBX's?
My CBX's have been sitting for years, are there any recommendations before starting them?
With the aircraft engines and prolonged storage, we used to pre-oil the engines. This was forcing oil thru the engine before starting it.
Has anyone ever done that and if so where was the pressure applied?
Later, George in Delaware
My CBX's have been sitting for years, are there any recommendations before starting them?
With the aircraft engines and prolonged storage, we used to pre-oil the engines. This was forcing oil thru the engine before starting it.
Has anyone ever done that and if so where was the pressure applied?
Later, George in Delaware
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I would squirt some oil into the spark plug holes and then crank the engine with the run/off switch set to off for a while. That will pump oil through the system. If you want to go through the effort, I would pull the valve cover off and check if there is a puddle of oil in the cavities behind the pool plates in the cylinder head. But that may be difficult without tilting the engine.
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Engine oils, pre-oiling and recommended oilt types.
EMS thanks for the recommendations.
I believe I'll be removing the valve cover to check inside, freshen up the finish on the cover and replace the gasket.
Do I need to do anything special to tilt the engine or remove the valve cover?
If anyone has a shop manual for sale for an '81 CBX, please contact me, I'm in the market to buy one.
The manual does not have to be pretty as long as it is readible.
Later, George in Delaware.
I believe I'll be removing the valve cover to check inside, freshen up the finish on the cover and replace the gasket.
Do I need to do anything special to tilt the engine or remove the valve cover?
If anyone has a shop manual for sale for an '81 CBX, please contact me, I'm in the market to buy one.
The manual does not have to be pretty as long as it is readible.
Later, George in Delaware.
I'm into motorcycles, wooden boats, airplanes, wood working and car restoration.
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Re: Engine oils, pre-oiling and recommended oilt types.
Tilting the engine is a little more elaborate than it sounds. Exhaust removal, rear wheel loosening, fiddling with the airbox.George R. Garrison #0857 wrote:
Do I need to do anything special to tilt the engine or remove the valve cover?
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If you can avoid it, do so. I am not sure, if the valve cover will come off without tilting the engine. I have never tried it. There may not be enough clearance to the frame to lift the cover over the cam towers.
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Yes it can be done without tilting the engine. May (will?) require copious amounts of foul language to coerce / finagle the cover back over the top of the rear oil line bolt without snagging the gasket, but it can be done.
I understand if you just loosen the back top engine brackets with the engine supported by a jack, you can lower the engine the 1-2 mm to let the cover go over the oil line bolt easier. Then you aren't messing with the "complete" engine tilt.
Haven't tried this yet, but will this winter when I check my valves.
Steve
I understand if you just loosen the back top engine brackets with the engine supported by a jack, you can lower the engine the 1-2 mm to let the cover go over the oil line bolt easier. Then you aren't messing with the "complete" engine tilt.
Haven't tried this yet, but will this winter when I check my valves.
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I don't know if the late model differ from the early models, but I've had the valve cover off several early models without tilting the motor. Patience is rewarded.
I doubt you'll need a new gasket. They seem to last almost forever. The hard part is getting it seated properly.
I clean gasket/cover thoroughly, then use some sort of non-hardening gasket sealer/adhesive to secure the gasket to the cover. Just a dab of sealant in the corners is all you need. Put the cover on a flat surface and let the sealer "set" while you check valve clearances, etc. Now take your time replacing the cover so as not to dislodge said gasket. After you've got it in place, visually check to see that it's even all the way around.
It sounds a lot harder than it really is........
I doubt you'll need a new gasket. They seem to last almost forever. The hard part is getting it seated properly.
I clean gasket/cover thoroughly, then use some sort of non-hardening gasket sealer/adhesive to secure the gasket to the cover. Just a dab of sealant in the corners is all you need. Put the cover on a flat surface and let the sealer "set" while you check valve clearances, etc. Now take your time replacing the cover so as not to dislodge said gasket. After you've got it in place, visually check to see that it's even all the way around.
It sounds a lot harder than it really is........
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Either garage is too small or we have too many bikes. Or Momma's car needs to go outside.
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George,
you stated
The site is a little convoluted but they show the shop manual for 1981-82 CBX in stock in paper form. The part number is 61MA200 which was the Honda part #. Helm has been the supplier of Honda manuals for a number of years as I have a catalogue from them dated June 1999.
They may also have the owners manual if you want to make your CBX complete.
you stated
The best source for Honda shop manuals is: www.helminc.comIf anyone has a shop manual for sale for an '81 CBX, please contact me, I'm in the market to buy one.
The site is a little convoluted but they show the shop manual for 1981-82 CBX in stock in paper form. The part number is 61MA200 which was the Honda part #. Helm has been the supplier of Honda manuals for a number of years as I have a catalogue from them dated June 1999.
They may also have the owners manual if you want to make your CBX complete.
harvey
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Valve Cover and manuals
Thanks guys for the info,
I'll contact the Helminc manual people.
I hope the valve cover gasket is in good shape.
Question: 1) Any body ever encounter a warped valve/cam cover?
2) If that happens, is it necessary to work it on a surface plate to true it?
3) Is this possibly why covers are hard to keep from leaking?
4) What's the prefered procedure to refurbish the outside surface of the valve cover?
Thanks for the help, George in Delaware
I'll contact the Helminc manual people.
I hope the valve cover gasket is in good shape.
Question: 1) Any body ever encounter a warped valve/cam cover?
2) If that happens, is it necessary to work it on a surface plate to true it?
3) Is this possibly why covers are hard to keep from leaking?
4) What's the prefered procedure to refurbish the outside surface of the valve cover?
Thanks for the help, George in Delaware
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