Chain length for 1100F swingarm conversion to 80 CBX

Mike Barone #123 · Post by **Mike Barone #123** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:32 am

EMS wrote:If you would find a way to stop taking everything personal, life would probably less stressful for you

When I have done something that works on a CBX and someone constantly replies that it does not matter or wont work without a single real result to back up their statement....it is personal and annoying at a minimum

Do your part...I will do mine.

NobleHops · Post by **NobleHops** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:45 am

Do you guys need a time out?

Jeff Bennetts · Post by **Jeff Bennetts** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:57 pm

Hey Mike S. I have a friendly wager for you. You take any CBX you own, stock or modified, pick the road or closed course. I'll wager $100.00 that Mike B., an old half blind fat guy on the Dawgie will show you his rear tire.

Now, lets keep this friendly.

jb

EMS · Post by **EMS** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:23 pm

Jeff Bennetts wrote:Hey Mike S. I have a friendly wager for you. You take any CBX you own, stock or modified, pick the road or closed course. I'll wager $100.00 that Mike B., an old half blind fat guy on the Dawgie will show you his rear tire.

Now, lets keep this friendly.

jb

Jeff, I know, you want to side with an old friend, but I am surprised that you are willing - in this economy - to piss away $100.- that easily. Especially as you have never ridden with me. I would be willing to look at his rear tire when giving him a head-start

Or I could take my stock Prolink to level the playing a field a little.

And, btw, it was Mike who decided to take this thread into unfriendly territory. We have exchanged some pm's in the meantime to keep this off the board.

Jeff Bennetts · Post by **Jeff Bennetts** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:37 pm

EMS wrote:
Jeff Bennetts wrote:Hey Mike S. I have a friendly wager for you. You take any CBX you own, stock or modified, pick the road or closed course. I'll wager $100.00 that Mike B., an old half blind fat guy on the Dawgie will show you his rear tire.

Now, lets keep this friendly.

jb
Jeff, I know, you want to side with an old friend, but I am surprised that you are willing - in this economy - to piss away $100.- that easily. Especially as you have never ridden with me. I would be willing to look at his rear tire when giving him a head-start Or I could take my stock Prolink to level the playing a field a little.
And, btw, it was Mike who decided to take this thread into unfriendly territory. We have exchanged some pm's in the meantime to keep this off the board.

I'm willing to take that chance, I don't need to know how you ride, you won't be the first one that I have seen first hand make the mistake of thinking the Dawgie can't walk the walk.

Talks cheap, put some money down and back it up, baby needs new shoes.

By the way, Mike is a pain in the ass, being an old friend has nothing to do with it, I could just use the extra money.

EMS · Post by **EMS** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:42 pm

Jeff Bennetts wrote:[
, you won't be the first one that I have seen first hand make the mistake of thinking the Dawgie can't walk the walk.

It will probably take me a while to check where I said that the Dawgie can't handle.

I thought all I said was:

While longer wheelbase in general makes turning a little harder, I doubt one would really feel a difference in a 24mm increased wheelbase when half of that can be produced by adjusting for a longer chain.

Rick Pope · Post by **Rick Pope** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:04 pm

Hey!!! It's 65 degrees here, and the sun is shining. Let's go for a ride!

Jeff Bennetts · Post by **Jeff Bennetts** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:11 pm

Let me help you, all these mods have been done to the Dawgie, maybe I'm reading this wrong?.

EMS wrote: I challenge anybody to be able to tell the difference in handling between two bikes, one with a 24mm longer wheelbase and nothing else changed. You guys fiddle with smaller wheels, wider tires, lower front ends, different effective shock positions which throw the whole geometry upside down and then you want to remedy a 24mm longer than stock swingarm. Come on

To be honest with you Mike, the real reason Mike B. shortened the 1100F swingarm is because we did the swap at a rally about 1:00 am in the parking lot and Mike didn't have access to a new chain and probably was too cheap to spring for a new chain anyway.

Mike Barone #123 · Post by **Mike Barone #123** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:36 pm

Jeff Bennetts wrote:

To be honest with you Mike, the real reason Mike B. shortened the 1100F swingarm is because we did the swap at a rally about 1:00 am in the parking lot and Mike didn't have access to a new chain and probably was too cheap to spring for a new chain anyway.

Actually I had filed back the 1100f arm axle slot to keep the stock wheelbase years before that Marlinton. Issue was Mike C brought a Henter alignment tool and turns out Dawgie was wayyyyyyyy out of alignment....with one side of the arm not filed back enough...wayyyyy too many beers with Bob Buehler that night so long ago caused it all.

Yes ...Jeff and I did re-file the holes even that night.....and was that pavement still hot or what. Those were the days.

Mike: You on a stock late model........our bike and rider total weights the same .......count me in. You put a patch over one eye to make it realllly even for us from a vision standpoint...after all I am 66 years old now! You get to a rally sometime...even if we dont do it.... we can talk the talk like we did.

Rick Pope · Post by **Rick Pope** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:20 pm

I'd wager $1 on each of them......

EMS · Post by **EMS** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:25 am

I had to come back to this thread and read it again thoroughly.
Reason is, "behind the scenes" the discussion is still going on and I am being "accused" of saying that the Dawgie does not handle well. I really didn't remember this and wanted to find the post where I made this statement. Not here. Does anybody know where and can point me there?

Jeff Bennetts · Post by **Jeff Bennetts** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:54 am

EMS · Post by **EMS** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:45 am

Well, Jeff, calling it beating a dead horse is an easy way to answer. Unfortunately, the pony is still alive and jumping

There is a reason for me to bringing this up.
You yourself indicated too, that I said the

"dawgie can't walk the walk"

but for the life of myself, I can't find that I made any statement to this extent. I wish people would read posts and not read into them. It almost seems like some WANTED me to say this, so they could have an argument.

Jeff Bennetts · Post by **Jeff Bennetts** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:22 am

Mike, what I don't understand is why you need an audience, take it up mono on mono with whoever the disagreement is with instead of rehashing it here.

EMS · Post by **EMS** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:32 am

Jeff: I am doing this. I just want to see if I am the only one who sees it this way. If I slammed the Dawgie anywhere, I would like for someone to point that out to me. If somebody else confirms that I didn't, then it may help the other person to realize exactly that.