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Two types of exhaust gaskets: Which one is best?
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:58 am
by BayArchitect
I see the original copper (bronze) tubular ring gaskets (the original Honda stuff) for sale, and I see a different type of gasket that is flat on two sides, sometimes called "crushable". Does one work better than the other? What is the crushable gasket made of? Thanks guys (and gals).
Re: Two types of exhaust gaskets: Which one is best?
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:55 am
by Mike Barone #123
BayArchitect wrote:I see the original copper (bronze) tubular ring gaskets (the original Honda stuff) for sale, and I see a different type of gasket that is flat on two sides, sometimes called "crushable". Does one work better than the other? What is the crushable gasket made of? Thanks guys (and gals).
Kawasaki makes copper gaskets that also fit the CBX ...much better. I am sure someone knows the specifics since I dont remember (been a while since I replaced mine). If no one replies ....pm me or post a reply to here and I will contact some club members that know and then get back to you
Mike
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:23 am
by alimey4u2
The crushable seemed to an asbestos like substance wire wound. The solid copper is what I use & work well. They can also be annealed to be used again......
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:36 pm
by EMS
The original Honda gasket is not a copper gasket. It is the asbestos wound version and I think no longer available, for obvious reasons. There are many alternatives vailable, one of them being the Kawasaki ones. I am with Larry. The copper gaskets can be re-used. Definitley an argument, because it seems you have to tilt the engine for every other little job you want to do
THANKS for the replies, but let me clarify...
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:07 pm
by BayArchitect
I will not re-use ANY gasket--EVER. That being the case, the question is this: Which exhaust gasket is BETTER? Which lasts longer (if one does not need to drop the exhaust)? Which fuctions better? Which is easier to use? Which causes the least trouble? Any thoughts? THANKS!
Re: THANKS for the replies, but let me clarify...
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:52 pm
by alimey4u2
Which lasts longer (if one does not need to drop the exhaust)?
Which fuctions better?
Which is easier to use?
Which causes the least trouble?
Which exhaust gasket is BETTER.
Solid copper is the answer to all the above. If you don't want to re use, buy another set.....
Larry...on your side on this. I found the CBX gaskets deteriote over time and dont work that well on reinstalls sometimes.
The Kawa gaskets that fit by chance were not solid copper but have a softer core surrounded by copper all aound so they also crush down nice. Hope I am not dreaming all this.........been 20 years since I saw one or thought about it.
I will find out what Kawa model they fit and get back
Mike
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:00 pm
by cbxtacy
My own opinion is the asbestos seals a little better, not that there's any problem with the copper. Asbestos also sticks to things better and can be a little more difficult to remove. I use whatever is laying around and re-use them indefinitely. Never had a problem. After installing an exhaust I'll warm up the engine to operating temp and tighten up the collars. Some people use grease to hold the gaskets in place when installing, I squeeze them into a slightly oval shape and tell them to STAY in a command voice. Never had one fall out during installation.
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:04 pm
by dan1995
i use masking tape to hold them in place...my voice is not that commanding
.....and if vikki commanded them they wold run and hide never to be found
Re: THANKS for the replies, but let me clarify...
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:06 pm
by Mike Barone #123
alimey4u2 wrote:Which lasts longer (if one does not need to drop the exhaust)?
Which fuctions better?
Which is easier to use?
Which causes the least trouble?
Which exhaust gasket is BETTER.
Solid copper is the answer to all the above. If you don't want to re use, buy another set.....
Larry...on your side on this. I found the CBX gaskets deteriote over time and dont work that well on reinstalls sometimes.
The Kawa gaskets that fit by chance were not solid copper but have a softer core surrounded by copper all aound so they also crush down nice. Hope I am not dreaming any or all this.........been 20 years since I saw one or thought about it.
I will find out what Kawa model they fit and get back
Mike
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:38 pm
by Louis
I sent him a set of copper ones. Louis
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:42 pm
by alimey4u2
Louis wrote:I sent him a set of copper ones. Louis
Louis you are a Gem......
My dealings with Louis have been excellent...
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:03 pm
by BayArchitect
May he live long and prosper....
Leon
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:14 pm
by Mopar_Tony_SF1
I have not seen the part number posted yet for the aftermarket copper gaskets .. use Vesrah part number vx1008 (dennis kirk p/n 26-1063) ..
fits these biks but the CBX is not listed:
Part 261063 fits the following machines:
Honda - CB400A Hawk Hondamatic 1978
Honda - CB400T Hawk 1980
Honda - CB400T Hawk 1981
Honda - CB400TI Hawk I 1978
Honda - CB400TI Hawk I 1979
Honda - CB400TII Hawk II 1978
Honda - CB400TII Hawk II 1979
Honda - CB450SC Nighthawk 1982
Honda - CB450SC Nighthawk 1983
Honda - CB450SC Nighthawk 1985
Honda - CB450SC Nighthawk 1986
Honda - CB450T Hawk 1982
Honda - CB550SC Nighthawk 1983
Honda - CB650SC Nighthawk 1983
Honda - CB650SC Nighthawk 1984
Honda - CB650SC Nighthawk 1985
Honda - CBR600F 1989
Honda - CBR600F 1990
Honda - CBR600F Hurricane 1987
Honda - CBR600F Hurricane 1988
Honda - CBR900RR 1993
Honda - CBR900RR 1994
Honda - CBR900RR 1995
Honda - CM400A Hondamatic 1979
Honda - CM400A Hondamatic 1980
Honda - CM400A Hondamatic 1981
Honda - CM400C Custom 1981
Honda - CM400E 1980
Honda - CM400E 1981
Honda - CM400T 1979
Honda - CM400T 1980
Honda - CM400T 1981
Honda - CM450A Hondamatic 1982
Honda - CM450A Hondamatic 1983
Honda - CM450C Custom 1982
Honda - CM450E 1982
Honda - CM450E 1983
Honda - NT650 Hawk GT 1988
Honda - NT650 Hawk GT 1989
Honda - NT650 Hawk GT 1990
Honda - NT650 Hawk GT 1991
Honda - TRX300EX FourTrax 1993
Honda - TRX300EX FourTrax 1994
Honda - TRX300EX FourTrax 1995
Honda - TRX300EX FourTrax 1996
Honda - TRX300EX FourTrax 1997
Honda - TRX300EX FourTrax 1998
Honda - TRX300EX FourTrax 1999
Honda - TRX300EX FourTrax 2004
Honda - TRX300EX Sportrax 2001
Honda - TRX300EX Sportrax 2002
Honda - TRX300EX Sportrax 2003
Honda - TRX300EX Sportrax 2004
Honda - TRX300EX Sportrax 2005
Honda - TRX350FE Rancher ES 4x4 2000
Honda - TRX350FE Rancher ES 4x4 2001
Honda - TRX350FE Rancher ES 4x4 2002
Honda - TRX350FE Rancher ES 4x4 2003
Honda - TRX350FE Rancher ES 4x4 2004
Honda - TRX350FE Rancher ES 4x4 2005
Honda - TRX350FE Rancher ES 4x4 2006
Honda - TRX350FM Rancher 4x4 2000
Honda - TRX350FM Rancher 4x4 2001
Honda - TRX350FM Rancher 4x4 2002
Honda - TRX350FM Rancher 4x4 2003
Honda - TRX350FM Rancher 4x4 2004
Honda - TRX350FM Rancher 4x4 2005
Honda - TRX350FM Rancher 4x4 2006
Honda - TRX350TE Rancher ES 2000
Honda - TRX350TE Rancher ES 2001
Honda - TRX350TE Rancher ES 2002
Honda - TRX350TE Rancher ES 2003
Honda - TRX350TE Rancher ES 2004
Honda - TRX350TE Rancher ES 2005
Honda - TRX350TE Rancher ES 2006
Honda - TRX350TM Rancher 2000
Honda - TRX350TM Rancher 2001
Honda - TRX350TM Rancher 2002
Honda - TRX350TM Rancher 2003
Honda - TRX350TM Rancher 2004
Honda - TRX350TM Rancher 2005
Honda - TRX350TM Rancher 2006
Honda - TRX400FA Rancher AT 4x4 2004
Honda - TRX400FA Rancher AT 4x4 2005
Honda - TRX400FA Rancher AT 4x4 2006
Honda - TRX400FGA Rancher AT 4x4 GPScape 2004
Honda - TRX400FGA Rancher AT 4x4 GPScape 2005
Honda - TRX400FGA Rancher AT 4x4 GPScape 2006
Honda - TRX500FA Foreman Rubicon 4x4 2005
Honda - TRX500FE Foreman ES 4x4 2005
Honda - TRX500FGA Foreman Rubicon 4x4 GPScape 2005
Honda - VF1000F Interceptor 1984
Honda - VF1000R 1985
Honda - VF1100C V65 Magna 1983
Honda - VF1100C V65 Magna 1984
Honda - VF1100C V65 Magna 1985
Honda - VF1100C V65 Magna 1986
Honda - VF1100S V65 Sabre 1984
Honda - VF1100S V65 Sabre 1985
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:09 pm
by Chris
I have used some of part number 16-6061 frin CBXMan and they appear to work well. Cost is just $1.71 each.
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:16 pm
by broook
I used the copper and the flat gaskets from the Honda 250es ATV. They are very common around here.