Help pls! Alternator 6 pos red plug wiring
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:55 pm
I've dug myself into 'a situation' when repairing the partially melted 6 wire connector that comes up from the alternator and seek guidance from my learned colleagues here on how to diagnose and hopefully proceed to a solution.
Like so many of our aging CBXs, corrosion had built up on some of the 1/4" spade on both sides of the red 6-wire alternator connector housing (and corrosion was visible on terminals on both the alternator side and regulator side) which had lead to increased resistance and significant heat, causing both housings to start to melt pretty badly. It was only going to get worse and lead to a 'fail to proceed' event and so needed some attention 'while I had the bonnet up', so to speak.
On the red 6-wire plug that comes up from the alternator, I carefully removed each wire one at a time, cut off the badly corroded 1/4" spade terminal, trimmed the unusual braided outer sheath off the wire (?) and soldered on a new terminal. Then inserted it into the same position in a new 6-wire connector housing I had - or so I believe. I carefully did only the badly corroded terminals one at a time and then proceeded to do the same on the matiing wire in the connector that goes to the regulator.
Feeling pretty smug, put I put it all back together only to find it is now not charging at all. Damn & buggeration!
Pulled it apart again today and using the audible 'continuity' function on my multimeter, found I am unable to get any continuity signal from any of the wires in the connector to any connection on the other end. I even pulled the alternator brushes and buzzed out from the two small ring terminals to any terminal on the connector and still nothing.
The braided sheath on those wires are definitely unusual and now I think about it, the inner core certainly did not look like a normal electrical copper wire. Are they made of some special material and therefore can not be soldered, nor buzzed out? If they are, should I just cut my soldered terminals off, trim them back and then just crimp the terminals on with no solder?
Any suggestions, including wiring pin outs from the alternator to the red plug (ie; what yellow wire goes where, in case I've accidentally swapped wire positions somehow) and good diagnosis procedures would be gratefully received. (and I'm excited 'cos I'm gonna learn something new)
Many thanks in advance folks and best wishes for a Happy New Year for all.
Cheers...Tony
Like so many of our aging CBXs, corrosion had built up on some of the 1/4" spade on both sides of the red 6-wire alternator connector housing (and corrosion was visible on terminals on both the alternator side and regulator side) which had lead to increased resistance and significant heat, causing both housings to start to melt pretty badly. It was only going to get worse and lead to a 'fail to proceed' event and so needed some attention 'while I had the bonnet up', so to speak.
On the red 6-wire plug that comes up from the alternator, I carefully removed each wire one at a time, cut off the badly corroded 1/4" spade terminal, trimmed the unusual braided outer sheath off the wire (?) and soldered on a new terminal. Then inserted it into the same position in a new 6-wire connector housing I had - or so I believe. I carefully did only the badly corroded terminals one at a time and then proceeded to do the same on the matiing wire in the connector that goes to the regulator.
Feeling pretty smug, put I put it all back together only to find it is now not charging at all. Damn & buggeration!
Pulled it apart again today and using the audible 'continuity' function on my multimeter, found I am unable to get any continuity signal from any of the wires in the connector to any connection on the other end. I even pulled the alternator brushes and buzzed out from the two small ring terminals to any terminal on the connector and still nothing.
The braided sheath on those wires are definitely unusual and now I think about it, the inner core certainly did not look like a normal electrical copper wire. Are they made of some special material and therefore can not be soldered, nor buzzed out? If they are, should I just cut my soldered terminals off, trim them back and then just crimp the terminals on with no solder?
Any suggestions, including wiring pin outs from the alternator to the red plug (ie; what yellow wire goes where, in case I've accidentally swapped wire positions somehow) and good diagnosis procedures would be gratefully received. (and I'm excited 'cos I'm gonna learn something new)
Many thanks in advance folks and best wishes for a Happy New Year for all.
Cheers...Tony